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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby brunel » Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:42 pm

[quote="wufer"]
I can only see 155R13.
No big deal, but its bugging me.

Cheers.
Derek.[/quote]


Hello mate,
Glad your all sorted now.
When you get them done have a chat with the fitters,most will be happy to explain sizes,ratios.

Armchair experts luv em to bits.

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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby brunel » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:52 pm

[quote="alanbirt"]'wufer', take note of what 'IanL' says: following your query of 10:03am, he replied promptly at 11:59am.

'IanL' has many years of experience with all types of Suzuki, he has an extensive personal library of information, he is now retired and gives the various Suzuki threads much of his time, and he is invariably accurate in his statements (over two-and-a-half THOUSAND postings in the Suzuki threads). If he doesn't know about a particular point, he says so. Just look at samples of his numerous postings for confirmation of this.

As 'IanL' has said, the tyre for the Carry is 155/80R13 and I confirm this - and it clearly states this information in the handbook ! Therefore the figure for the tyre-profile you need to quote is '80' (eighty).

Do take into account that if you buy tyres as "supply only" via the web, you will probably have to pay carriage as an extra and you are left with the problem of fitting them and then balancing the wheels or else paying to have this done - the total cost might then be more than your local tyre establishment 'supply & fit' service.

As 'brunel' has indicated, you ought to be able to get budget tyres for about forty pounds or so, including fitting.[/quote]

Yes I would tend to agree.
I also find that having owned many Suzuki vehicles{and still do}since the launch of the marque in the UK,and maintaining them one does tend to pick up a reasonable amount of knowledge.
But one must always keep a sense of proportion,and above all humour in all things.
So the conclusion would seem to be that the standard tyre aspect ratio/profile for the carry is 80,as per information in owners hand book and marked on the tyre wall.
Job done.

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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby alanbirt » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:09 pm

[quote="wufer"] alanbirt Hello. :)
Out of interest, where in the handbook did you see the profile as 80.(what page)
I can only see 155R13. No big deal, but its bugging me. Cheers. Derek.[/quote]

'wufer' asked a quite valid question some days ago, following the information I had posted earlier. However, the delay in responding is because I have been travelling back from New Zealand to the UK and so have been unable to reply until now. 28 hours incarcerated on an aeroplane and, upon reaching home, to have one's personal time-clock twelve hours out-of-phase means I am still somewhat in a mental-muddle. I do pay a hefty extra premium to travel by sleeper and so have a bed on the aeroplane but even then it is a tedious journey. I went 'cattle-class' for my first visit but "never again" !

Section 3F, page 1, of the Carry 1.3 service manual states the tyre is 155/80/R13C-6PR and I quote from this page (the spelling is USA-style !) via 'copy & paste' below:-


WHEELS AND TIRES 3F-1

GENERAL DESCRIPTION
TIRES
This vehicle is equipped with 155/80/R13C-6PR.
The tires are of tubeless type. The tires are designed to operate satisfactorily with loads up to the full rated load
capacity when inflated to the recommended inflation pressure.
Correct tire pressures and driving habits have an important influence on tire life. Heavy cornering, excessively
rapid acceleration, and unnecessary sharp braking increase tire wear.
WHEELS
Standard equipment wheels are following steel wheel.
134.00 B
REPLACEMENT TIRES
When replacement is necessary, the original equipment type tire should be used. Refer to the Tire Placard. Replacement
tires should be of the same size, load range and construction as those originally on the vehicle. Use
of any other size or type tire may affect ride, handling, speedometer/odometer calibration, vehicle ground clearance
and tire or snow chain clearance to the body and chassis.
It is recommended that new tires be installed in pairs on the same axle. If necessary to replace only one tire, it should
be paired with the tire having the most tread, to equalize braking traction.
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby brunel » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:30 pm

[quote="alanbirt"][quote="wufer"] alanbirt Hello. :)
Out of interest, where in the handbook did you see the profile as 80.(what page)
I can only see 155R13. No big deal, but its bugging me. Cheers. Derek.[/quote]

'wufer' asked a quite valid question some days ago, following the information I had posted earlier. However, the delay in responding is because I have been travelling back from New Zealand to the UK and so have been unable to reply until now. 28 hours incarcerated on an aeroplane and, upon reaching home, to have one's personal time-clock twelve hours out-of-phase means I am still somewhat in a mental-muddle. I do pay a hefty extra premium to travel by sleeper and so have a bed on the aeroplane but even then it is a tedious journey. I went 'cattle-class' for my first visit but "never again" !

Section 3F, page 1, of the Carry 1.3 service manual states the tyre is 155/80/R13C-6PR and I quote from this page (the spelling is USA-style !) via 'copy & paste' below:-


WHEELS AND TIRES 3F-1

GENERAL DESCRIPTION
TIRES
This vehicle is equipped with 155/80/R13C-6PR.
The tires are of tubeless type. The tires are designed to operate satisfactorily with loads up to the full rated load
capacity when inflated to the recommended inflation pressure.
Correct tire pressures and driving habits have an important influence on tire life. Heavy cornering, excessively
rapid acceleration, and unnecessary sharp braking increase tire wear.
WHEELS
Standard equipment wheels are following steel wheel.
134.00 B
REPLACEMENT TIRES
When replacement is necessary, the original equipment type tire should be used. Refer to the Tire Placard. Replacement
tires should be of the same size, load range and construction as those originally on the vehicle. Use
of any other size or type tire may affect ride, handling, speedometer/odometer calibration, vehicle ground clearance
and tire or snow chain clearance to the body and chassis.
It is recommended that new tires be installed in pairs on the same axle. If necessary to replace only one tire, it should
be paired with the tire having the most tread, to equalize braking traction.[/quote]


Yes the information in the manual would apply to all vehicles.
Its just the tyre sizes and wheel types that differ.

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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby alanbirt » Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:16 am

[quote="brunel"] Yes the information in the manual would apply to all vehicles.
Its just the tyre sizes and wheel types that differ. Brunel [/quote]

My thanks to 'brunel' for his confirmation and support of my posting which referred to the tyre size on the Carry.

The thread has drifted away from the original query by 'wufer' which concerned the price of replacement tyres in the budget category. Both 'steamydave', 'brunel', and myself suggested £40 as a guide price. I based my estimate on the £34 I had paid some two years ago - there has been a rise in VAT since then and the general increase in prices anyway seemed to make £40 a reasonable guess. I am pleased that 'wufer' has been able to use this advice as a guide and so has managed to find suitable tyres at £42.

This is one of the many benefits one can derive by being a member of this forum. I trust 'wufer' is happy with his first contact on this "information & advice database" and we shall have further messages from him in due course.
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby brunel » Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:04 pm

[quote="alanbirt"][quote="brunel"] Yes the information in the manual would apply to all vehicles.
Its just the tyre sizes and wheel types that differ. Brunel [/quote]

My thanks to 'brunel' for his confirmation and support of my posting which referred to the tyre size on the Carry.

The thread has drifted away from the original query by 'wufer' which concerned the price of replacement tyres in the budget category. Both 'steamydave', 'brunel', and myself suggested £40 as a guide price. I based my estimate on the £34 I had paid some two years ago - there has been a rise in VAT since then and the general increase in prices anyway seemed to make £40 a reasonable guess. I am pleased that 'wufer' has been able to use this advice as a guide and so has managed to find suitable tyres at £42.

This is one of the many benefits one can derive by being a member of this forum. I trust 'wufer' is happy with his first contact on this "information & advice database" and we shall have further messages from him in due course.[/quote]



And of course lets not forget the contribution of "IanL"

Ps. On my part the sum of 40 pounds approx was based on research{and not a guess},some prices were as low as 26 pounds,being an online price fitting would of couse be extra.
But at least "wufer" now has all of the information he needed.

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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby wufer » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:16 pm

Cheers all.
Fitted and sorted out now :D
Thay are, Event ML650 155R13C 8pr.

Thank you.
Derek.
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby brunel » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:32 pm

[quote="wufer"]Cheers all.
Fitted and sorted out now :D
Thay are, Event ML650 155R13C 8pr.

Thank you.
Derek.[/quote]


Glad you are sorted mate.
That make and type should serve you well.

Regards.

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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby kzxr » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:06 pm

Just out of interest, I've just bought a pair of budget tyres for £90 (£45 Ea) fitted, balanced etc.
Tyre sales wanted £115 Ats £99 and Halfords could do £48 each for firestones.

The people I used are a local independant company, they got the tyres and fitted them later the same day, all of the others said it would take till the next morning to get them. I was only free on that day so was well pleased to get them sorted.

I asked the fitter why these size tyres are such a pain to get hold of and he said it used to be one of the most common sizes, used on escorts and the like so there was always a lot of stock about, nowadys lower profile tyres are being used more and more meaning less call for our size and therefore less stock.

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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby brunel » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:37 pm

[quote="kzxr"]

I asked the fitter why these size tyres are such a pain to get hold of and he said it used to be one of the most common sizes, used on escorts and the like so there was always a lot of stock about, nowadys lower profile tyres are being used more and more meaning less call for our size and therefore less stock.

Mark.[/quote]

Yes mate I was told the same by my local tyre fitter.
However he can get them within 24hrs so thats not to bad.
He charges from 30 to 40 pounds per corner.
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby Orange5 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:44 pm

When your buying budget tyres for your carry make sure they are commercial tyres and not the standard car tyres. It seems the standard for the carry is a six ply rating instead of a normal cars four ply rating.
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby alanbirt » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:40 pm

[quote="Orange5"]When your buying budget tyres for your carry make sure they are commercial tyres and not the standard car tyres. It seems the standard for the carry is a six ply rating instead of a normal cars four ply rating.[/quote]

When enquiring about replacement tyres for my Carry, I was advised not to have 6-ply car tyres but, as it is a basic commercial vehicle, I should insist on 8-ply tyres. Having just gone to the garage and checked, the Nexen tyres currently on my Carry are 8-ply. I believe my original Yokohama tyres were 8-ply, too, but cannot now check. However, I have also heard a theory that 6-ply car tyres on the Carry will give a softer, smoother ride. But this may later produce difficulties in the case of a subsequent insurance claim as a 'cheapo' insurance company may well deline to pay as the vehicle was not fitted with the correct tyre specification. I have heard of this problem, too, but have no actual experience.

I am not quibbling about the information posted by 'Orange5' nor am I able to state catergorically that the information given to me is correct. I am merely reporting what I have been told. No doubt people with more expert knowledge about tyres can clarify the situation.
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby Orange5 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:25 pm

Im sure carrys are fitted as standard with a six ply rating, cars are normally four ply and unsuitable if carrying weight. Eight ply are the usual standar but six ply would be my choice.
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby goldenhammerman » Thu May 12, 2016 9:38 pm

There may be a difference between a 2005 and a 2003 Carry with regards to tyres but I think not.
I would warn any Carry owner to consider very carefully before fitting any old 155R13 tyre to their vehicle. I have examined those on my 2003 Carry to find out that only ONE has the correct load rating for the vehicle and the others are middle of the road Car Tyres. The point about having the correct load rating tyres fitted may not be apparent until perhaps after an accident and just maybe it is noted that although the tyres may have suitable tread and be in perfect condition to have tyres with a lesser load rating than the vehicle requires could put any claim on hold. It's all to do with Axle Weights I am told. Not only that but the Manual (which someone kindly put on here for anyone to download - thanks) states clearly that the tyres must be 155R13C - 6PR (Ply Rating) - these are VAN and not Car tyres - you can go up - ie as I think Alan said, he had 8 ply but anyone tempted to go for Car Tyres not only might jeopardise any insurance claim but the handling and load carrying qualities may leave a lot to be desired - particularly with regards steering as we all know these vehicles tend to be blown about at the best of times, and car tyres on the front can have an adverse effect when cornering if fitted tyo the front axle.
Don'ty rely on the MOT examiner to check whether the tyres are suitable - my 3 out of 4 incorrect ones sailed through the MOT without a mention.
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby alanbirt » Fri May 13, 2016 12:45 pm

A timely and pertinent posting by 'goldenhammer' above. I note my last posting on this thread (several above) was over four years ago and since then I have renewed the front tyres on my Carry campervan. I did this in the autumn of 2014, 1½ years ago, shortly before declaring SORN on my vehicle and putting it away into hibernation over the winter.

Again I had Nexen van tyres fitted and the cost was £75 for the pair which included new valves, balancing, disposal of old tyres, etc, so well under £40 each. They were in stock at the tyre-fitters so I did not have to wait for them to be ordered. The cheapo Nexens have served me well and I note from the very recent MoT report the treads are still 6mm all over on the front and 5.5mm all over on the rear. These tyres are of Korean manufacture. The front tyres have travelled only one summer season so far. My first trip this year is next week, to Ireland.
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